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MacGregor - discussion on Apartheid Collquium

"I can't see how [South African violence] can be resolved except through more and more violence.... Having all my family there, I'm very worried about them," said T. Alan Hatton, professor of chemical engineering, in a discussion at MacGregor last week.

Hatton and Gretchen Ritter G, a graduate student in political science, led the discussion on South African unrest as part of the Institute Colloquium on Apartheid. Hatton has not lived in South Africa since 1977.

"One thing to bear in mind is the South African Defense Force is very strong and I think they're going to contain the violence for a long time, but it's going to spill over," he continued.

"There were very effective boycotts," Ritter declared, remarking on black boycotts of white businesses in South Africa. "If you can recall, that was one of the events preceding the declaration of emergency measures."

"If you think that change is inevitable, then you ask the question `How is it going to happen and who is going to move us there?' " Ritter continued. "If you think that trying to hold onto the system as it now exists is effective policy, I would have to say no."

When asked about the effectiveness of the Sullivan Principles, Ritter responded, "He [Sullivan] at this point has said that the Sullivan Principles have failed miserably. What they have really done is legitimize American business involvement in South Africa."

"The South African economy depends upon white supremacy," she continued. "We had slavery. This country has blood on its hands.... I don't think that Americans can hold their heads that high."

One student participating in the discussion said, "The people, from what I know of them, are so stubborn and so strong, I don't think they'll give up. I think they'll fight to the death."